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Comments on: SDCC09 Day Four: The Hangover http://www.thepostgameshow.com/?p=790 Fri, 24 Nov 2017 11:18:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Halliday http://www.thepostgameshow.com/?p=790&cpage=1#comment-1125 Halliday Tue, 28 Jul 2009 23:05:47 +0000 http://www.thepostgameshow.com/?p=790#comment-1125 Andrew>That's some tricky shit too. Andrew>That’s some tricky shit too.

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By: Andrew http://www.thepostgameshow.com/?p=790&cpage=1#comment-1122 Andrew Tue, 28 Jul 2009 13:32:24 +0000 http://www.thepostgameshow.com/?p=790#comment-1122 Halliday: Davies <i>is</i> gay, but he's still capable of writing homophobic stories! Joe: There's been some debate about that. I'm fine with it, personally. It represents something real that we don't often see on TV. I do wonder, though, how that squares with Clem's 'he smells like a queer' comment, which was so bizarre and stupid that they should have cut it anyway. To put it another way; I'm not sure that's how they were writing Ianto outside of that one scene with his sister, or how Lloyd was playing it. Halliday: Davies is gay, but he’s still capable of writing homophobic stories!

Joe: There’s been some debate about that. I’m fine with it, personally. It represents something real that we don’t often see on TV. I do wonder, though, how that squares with Clem’s ‘he smells like a queer’ comment, which was so bizarre and stupid that they should have cut it anyway. To put it another way; I’m not sure that’s how they were writing Ianto outside of that one scene with his sister, or how Lloyd was playing it.

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By: Helen http://www.thepostgameshow.com/?p=790&cpage=1#comment-1119 Helen Tue, 28 Jul 2009 09:23:23 +0000 http://www.thepostgameshow.com/?p=790#comment-1119 That RTD quote is almost as deliciously incoherent as a Heather Mills McCartney offering. Far more annoying though. That RTD quote is almost as deliciously incoherent as a Heather Mills McCartney offering. Far more annoying though.

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By: Kev H http://www.thepostgameshow.com/?p=790&cpage=1#comment-1118 Kev H Tue, 28 Jul 2009 08:04:52 +0000 http://www.thepostgameshow.com/?p=790#comment-1118 I seem to be the only person who wasn't that bothered about Ianto dying. All of the other Torchwood members, deceased or not, had a use, but he didn't. His apparent use, as a doorman and cleaner, went right out of the window after the first episode. Then they gave him a background as an agent, but he never seemed to show the nerve of an agent. I had hoped that, in being a cleaner, he would at least have some of the qualities that made Jean Reno's character in Nikita so great, but instead of being tough he became a sort of male damsel in distress for Jack to save. Even Gwen looked tougher in Children of Earth, rocking two pistols in a gun fight. He was little more than a background character elevated by Russell T. paying too much attention to fans, and his entire personality eventually became driven by the existence of Jack, not by Ianto existing within the world. Only Children of Earth attempted to address this, only to get shot of him before the mini was out. I seem to be the only person who wasn’t that bothered about Ianto dying. All of the other Torchwood members, deceased or not, had a use, but he didn’t. His apparent use, as a doorman and cleaner, went right out of the window after the first episode. Then they gave him a background as an agent, but he never seemed to show the nerve of an agent.

I had hoped that, in being a cleaner, he would at least have some of the qualities that made Jean Reno’s character in Nikita so great, but instead of being tough he became a sort of male damsel in distress for Jack to save. Even Gwen looked tougher in Children of Earth, rocking two pistols in a gun fight.

He was little more than a background character elevated by Russell T. paying too much attention to fans, and his entire personality eventually became driven by the existence of Jack, not by Ianto existing within the world. Only Children of Earth attempted to address this, only to get shot of him before the mini was out.

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By: Joe Helfrich http://www.thepostgameshow.com/?p=790&cpage=1#comment-1117 Joe Helfrich Tue, 28 Jul 2009 02:30:28 +0000 http://www.thepostgameshow.com/?p=790#comment-1117 So what did you think about Ianto's comment to his sister that he wasn't into guys, he was into Jack? So what did you think about Ianto’s comment to his sister that he wasn’t into guys, he was into Jack?

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By: Halliday http://www.thepostgameshow.com/?p=790&cpage=1#comment-1115 Halliday Tue, 28 Jul 2009 00:55:33 +0000 http://www.thepostgameshow.com/?p=790#comment-1115 There have been a few recent female writers and pencillers at MARVEL that would have fit the bill nicely... such as Katherine Immonen and Sara Pichelli. They're helming one of MARVEL'S more original and innovative books (at least... until Terry Moore's rather weak run. I wasn't a fan of Whedon's six issues either), and so are I'm really liking what they're doing with it. They'd have been perfect for that panel. I'm getting seriously tired of MARVEL and DC going from one lame mini-series to the next. It's disruptive to the regular flow of a lot of ongoing series and adds NOTHING to my enjoyment of these books. Keep that shit to one a year for God's sake! A screenwriter that can't figure out how to write a comic is some tricky shit, yo. It's going to be tough to top Milo Ventimiglia's terrible BERSERKER, though. Wait... I always thought that Russell T. Davies was gay. So all this time he was just super BRITISH!?! Man, my gay-dar game is FUCKED UP, son. -_- There have been a few recent female writers and pencillers at MARVEL that would have fit the bill nicely… such as Katherine Immonen and Sara Pichelli. They’re helming one of MARVEL’S more original and innovative books (at least… until Terry Moore’s rather weak run. I wasn’t a fan of Whedon’s six issues either), and so are I’m really liking what they’re doing with it. They’d have been perfect for that panel.

I’m getting seriously tired of MARVEL and DC going from one lame mini-series to the next. It’s disruptive to the regular flow of a lot of ongoing series and adds NOTHING to my enjoyment of these books. Keep that shit to one a year for God’s sake!

A screenwriter that can’t figure out how to write a comic is some tricky shit, yo. It’s going to be tough to top Milo Ventimiglia’s terrible BERSERKER, though.

Wait… I always thought that Russell T. Davies was gay. So all this time he was just super BRITISH!?! Man, my gay-dar game is FUCKED UP, son. -_-

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By: Marysia http://www.thepostgameshow.com/?p=790&cpage=1#comment-1114 Marysia Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:11:44 +0000 http://www.thepostgameshow.com/?p=790#comment-1114 I don't care what RTD thinks of my opinion, I'm still not watching season 4 without Ianto. Poo to him. I don’t care what RTD thinks of my opinion, I’m still not watching season 4 without Ianto. Poo to him.

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By: Sigma7 http://www.thepostgameshow.com/?p=790&cpage=1#comment-1112 Sigma7 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:34:21 +0000 http://www.thepostgameshow.com/?p=790#comment-1112 It's funny because it does fit the Tara-from-Buffy mold well in that respect -- it's not lazy drama because (s)he's gay, it's lazy drama because they couple up just in time to be de-coupled and that makes Real Character tormented at the sudden, tragic loss of Dr. Expendable. It sullies the investment in and characterization of Ianto to turn him into a dramatic crowbar for prying Jack off his hinges -- for all the talk of making the relationship real, it certainly doesn't play out dramatically that way. And God, I've looked over his Ausiello comments more than once and I simply can't tell what he's talking about, to the point where I start looking through the source code to see if there's maybe a misplaced tag somewhere because this doesn't even read like a coherent answer to that question. I mean, condescension I can expect from an <i>artiste</i>, but the bit where he seems to stake sole sovereign claim to carry the banner of The Gay just...I can't wrap my head around that. Are we sure this was really RTD and not, say, Fiona Apple? I've never seen them in the same place at the same time.... It’s funny because it does fit the Tara-from-Buffy mold well in that respect — it’s not lazy drama because (s)he’s gay, it’s lazy drama because they couple up just in time to be de-coupled and that makes Real Character tormented at the sudden, tragic loss of Dr. Expendable. It sullies the investment in and characterization of Ianto to turn him into a dramatic crowbar for prying Jack off his hinges — for all the talk of making the relationship real, it certainly doesn’t play out dramatically that way.

And God, I’ve looked over his Ausiello comments more than once and I simply can’t tell what he’s talking about, to the point where I start looking through the source code to see if there’s maybe a misplaced tag somewhere because this doesn’t even read like a coherent answer to that question. I mean, condescension I can expect from an artiste, but the bit where he seems to stake sole sovereign claim to carry the banner of The Gay just…I can’t wrap my head around that. Are we sure this was really RTD and not, say, Fiona Apple? I’ve never seen them in the same place at the same time….

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